Ahahahahaha, oh wow.

[pikabot]

I am lulzing so hard right now. So hard.

OK, so, I should have known better. I admit this. But when I saw Katara-bashing going down in atla_rants, I couldn't resist jumping in with both feet.

100+ comments ensued, and various statements of dire stupidity were made by two ladies in particular: dietotaku, and the inexplicably named sugeatarc.

sugeatarc begins by Accusing Katara of immaturity, not actually caring about Aang, deliberately undermining Aang's decision, and accusing everyone who disagreed with her of just not seeing the big picture. Unfortunately, it doesn't get much better from there: she repeatedly accuses Katara of playing dice with the universe by not running up to Zuko and giving him a big ol' hug on sight. When questioned on exactly how she was doing this, she never really gave a coherent reply, preferring instead to make nonsensical metaphors involving foxholes, and hilariously inaccurate comparisons to Song of Ice and Fire. When called out on her metaphor being bullshit, she does not respond and instead pursues the Song of Ice and Fire quibble. The closest she ever comes to answering our requests for an explanation is this winner of a comment, where she accuses Katara of driving off Zuko when he first appeared. Which, I suppose, is accurate, but she seems intent on ignoring the fact that so did everybody else. No response has been forthcoming to it being pointed out that she didn't think her cunning plan all the way through there.

Also, apparently Katara must be a perfectly behaved little angel at all times, as she also condemns Katara for getting pissy with Toph in The Chase. Apparently, not being sunbeams and unicorn rainbows to a newcomer is the same as actively trying to drive them away. Who knew.

Oh, and by the way? I'm a troll. Image macros are my only response.

The other offender, dietotaku, is another, but no less crazy, type of stupid. While sugeatarc contributes the massive ignorance, dietotaku brings the WTF. She consistently demonstrates a fundamental incomprehension of the way people interact. I could link to every single one of her comments, and each would show off a unique form of crazy, but here's a Greatest Hits list:

• Katara should go have a long chat about Zuko's feelings!


• well he's not shooting fire at her RIGHT NOW, is he?


• "OH HONESTLY. what, are you 14 too? am i the only person on the goddamn planet who is willing to TALK to people i DON'T LIKE because maybe i'll find out WHY they are the way they are and gain some insight on how to get along with them better?"


• Sokka is a jerk, and the water tribe siblings just need to grow up and stop harboring a grudge against a dude who helped get their best friend killed.


• "consequences only have a purpose when they can teach a lesson. suffering the consequences for doing bad things AFTER you've already realized they were bad and made amends is pointless."


• And the crowning king of the batshit, "the human mind focuses on 2 things: primacy and recency. by that logic, katara should have 2 impressions of zuko: one of him peacefully leaving her village, as he promised, when aang agreed to go with him, and the other of appa delightedly licking zuko's face before he prostrated himself and begged to be taken prisoner." That's right people, if you actively hunt people down and try to kill them for a year, they'll forget all about it if act nice and get in cahoots with their sky bison!

On the other side of the fence was myself, a_white_rain, and amiraelizabeth, who is now officially my fucking hero. Unfortunately, all we managed to do was stir up more batshit.

Now, this is all hilarious wank, but the real lulz comes in when it turns out that dietotaku is actually the creator and maintainer of atla_rants. Meaning? I'm now banned from the comm. Apparently dietotaku doesn't appreciate being compared to Rodimus Prime via image macro.

I am laughing my ass off here. I sort of want to create a new comm for Avatar rants, one with actual defined rules (including 'no character bashing'), and advertise it as 'The rants comm that WON'T ban you for disagreeing with the mod'.

ETA: HAHA, BONUS. I just checked the comm's user info, and dietotaku has made the following addition:

FIRST RULE: this is atla_rants, NOT capslock_atla. the douchebaggery tolerance level is substantially lower here. if you can't discuss a topic without breaking out macros and personal insults, don't bother posting at all.

The lulz factor just went up TWENTY-FOLD.

Comments

[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

THIS MADE MY NIGHT. THE STUPID WAS... WAS EPIC STUPID.

Ps make that community. We NEED a good rant community that is filled with win like the one where you bitched about lack of girl on girl action in fandom. HELLO THE GIRLSLASH IS EVERY WHERE. FANDOM MOCKS THIS TRUTH.

[pikabot]

I felt it needed to be catalogued here, for posterity.

MAYBE I WILL

[pikabot]

IT IS DONE

[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

Fantastic. *joins*

[sadieko.livejournal.com]

....HAHAHAHAHAHA. Things like this make me sad for the next generation and their ability to actually understand what they are watching.

[pikabot]

ACTUALLY ACCORDING TO HER USERINFO, dietotaku IS SIX YEARS OLDER THAN ME

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BETTER OR WORSE D:

[kanthia.livejournal.com]

Oh man, you don't know how much I needed that laugh right now. People can be such pretentious assholes and I LOVE IT.

Just be careful about creating a sister comm, you might end up being mocked for grudgewanking like that guy who made antipokewifi (except he was twelve and an idiot)



...Avatar is SRS BUISNESS

[pikabot]

If I get accused of grudgewankery I will fall back on the tried-and-true tactic of macrospamming. Nobody can outargue someone who only responds with macros.

[the-fox-bandit.livejournal.com]

HAHAHA. Such STUPID. I am still baffled at the comment that you're a troll.

I guess that's what happens when you get an Avatar comm run by someone who is essentially from the anti-fandom.

*Joins your rant comm*

[pikabot]

I'm so glad she missed deleting the image macro in this thread. It was the best response EVER.

[scribe-protra.livejournal.com]

Wtfuuuuuuck? Man I would not be able to be as calm as you appeared to be.

[pikabot]

Oh, I was not even vaguely calm. When dietotaku said "well he's not shooting fire at her RIGHT NOW, is he?" I fucking flipped out and started kicking my chair around the room, screeching fuck.

[a-white-rain.livejournal.com]

He bitched with me. It was very therapeutic.

[moonlightnrain.livejournal.com]

*pats you on the back* You are so not a troll; you're just trying to enlighten those poor misguided souls a bit. But some people don't want to be enlightened, they want to be right, dammit. :)

Now, I'd fully expect character bashing in a rants comm. But then, by my definition, rant means anything goes. And furthermore, I'd think any ranter should expect to have to defend their rants. But ranty people, in my experience, aren't very good at actually, you know, conceding, even in the face of clear, logical arguments. :)

[pikabot]

Not in MY rants comm. A rants comm need not contain any character bashing. Rants is for the purpose of expressing frustration. You can do that, even about the actions of canon characters, without bashing them. It's the difference between "Katara's sort of annoying me personally, I get that Zuko's messed with her and all but I'm getting tired of her bitching him out over it" and "Katara is such a bitch, I can't believe she doesn't just accept Zuko with open arms."

[amiraelizabeth.livejournal.com]

YAY! I'm somebody's hero! :D

[pikabot]

YOU ARE MY HERO SO HARD. You said what I was saying, only way more concise and reasonable and with less beating of the head.

[pikabot]

Largely because I do not frequent fandom_wank. If you'd be interested in posting it there, I could get you the HTML code for this writeup so you don't have to spend an eternity putting all the links together like I did.

[amiraelizabeth.livejournal.com]

Can this be the first rant...

PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY KNOW BETTER THAN THE CREATORS SOLELY BECAUSE X ISN'T SNOGGING Y! I am so freaking sick and tired of seeing this BS piled on the creators and writers of this show solely because of what they are doing with the characters romance-wise.

[pikabot]

You just can't get happy with this comment, can you? I've goptten like ten edit comment notifications XD

If you want that to be the first rant, then by all means join atla_makesusmad if you haven't already, and rant away!

[jewbrat.livejournal.com]

adding you since you're made of genius and lol?

[jewbrat.livejournal.com]

oh, also as someone with a bit of a personal vendetta with dietotaku (not because she has directly attacked me or anything, but because her all high and mighty "MY WORD IS FUCKIN' GOSPEL" attitude grinds me in the most non-erotic but most unpleasant way.) you get even more props from me for not taking her shit.

Adding my 2 cents way late

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Can I just say thank you for backing Katara? Post 'Western Air Temple' I remember commenting in two separate posts bitching about Katara's behavior (other posts, thankfully less psycho than your battleground) and I'm always thrilled to see other people who agree that Katara was acting totally within her right, and that her darker edge was so. awesome.

(Also, someone was complaining about Katara in "The Chase"? I wanted to smack Toph so hard in that episode.

To add insult to injury, one of the anti-Katara posts was on katara_zuko which is like, please, if you don't squee maniacally when one part of your parting threatens to kill the other, why are you shipping an enemies pairing in the first place?

Re: Adding my 2 cents way late

[pikabot]

I don't like Zuko/Katara so I don't frequent katara_zuko, but I'll occasionally follow a link there from atla_press, and from what I've seen, it seems to be a breeding ground for batshit insanity.

I cannot ever help defending Katara. She does not deserve any of the shit fandom gives her, she's an awesome female character of the kind there should be more of. Calling her a bitch or immature beause she dares to have her own perspective and behave in a totally human way just gets my goat up.

(And yeah, calling out KATARA for being bitchy in The Chase? Seriously? Toph was so, so, much worse, and she was the instigator. I mean, I can understand why she acted like that, but OMG, I wouldn't have reacted any better than Katara.

Besides, it's not like anyone was behaving normally in The Chase. Lack of sleep had taken a toll on everyone. I mean, hell, Aang called her fat. Everyone was bitchy as hell in that episode)