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How butthurt can one woman get? The answer, apparently, is 'very'.

Earlier today,

sugeatarc (who you may remember from such films as "Katara In A Fox Hole", "Not Trusting A Former Enemy Means Playing Dice With The World", and "Inaccurate Song of Ice and Fire Analogies") made a post to

avatar_fans, talking about the upcoming spoilery book, what's probably going to be in it, where to find spoilers, how to avoid them, etc. This is that post. You may notice that there is no content there, only a link to where the content is hosted on her journal. It was not like that earlier.

There is a story behind this.

After she posted that, I had a look over it, deemed it to be a good post, but I had a suggestion that maybe she could add to the 'how to avoid spoilers' section. Namely, that one could filter all Avatar-related comms from one's flist, except for the newsletter. Since the newsletter reports all Avatar LJ content, and marks for spoilers, you can use it to dodge spoilers AND not miss out on non-spoilery content.

I don't think this is a bad idea. It's what I'm doing. And it's an idea that people could stand to hear about. So I comment, politely suggesting that she add it to that section.

Five minutes later, my comment is gone.

I arch an eyebrow, but figure that LJ is being crazy and ate it. It does that sometimes. So I repost it, with an additional 'wtf, where did my comment go o_0' attached. It vanishes again within ten minutes.

Now, I'm no idiot. By this point, I've figured it out. For whatever reason,

sugeatarc is deleting my comments. So I post it again, take a screencap, and wait. Sure enough, within ten minutes, it's gone.

(Incidentally, I used pretty much the same wording all three times)

With evidence in hand, I email the mods, who look at the screencap, look at the empty space where the comment should be, and then reply to the post saying 'Yeah, cut it out'.

End result: she disables comments, and moves it to her personal journal.

It absolutely boggles my mind that someone could be so butthurt over an argument that happened more than two months ago that she not only ignores everything the other fella says on general principles, but in fact seeks to expunge it from the internet so that nobody else can see it either. And then, when told by an authority figure to grow up a little, she instead takes her ball and goes home, while painting herself as the victim in her link text.

In other, less wanky news, I got quoted in a secret today. Between this, people being butthurt at me, and people shittalking me behind my back, I think I'm now officially a BNF! :B

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LOL. She's still butthurt over that? Oh lord.

I thought maybe that was yours. Hee hee.

I KNOW, RIGHT? I just cannot believe it. I only remember it because it was hilarious and every time I see

dietotaku say something stupid (read: every time I see

dietotaku say anything) I am reminded of it.

....that is so ridiculous.

Hey, it's not so unlikely that someone would quote me! :'(

Joking. Yeah, it's fucking ludicrous. When I realized what was happening, I laughed so hard I think I broke something.

:p

Hahaah oh fandom.

Oh, avatar fans, why do you suck so hardcore sometimes?

I saw that secret and it depressed the hell out of me. Sometimes, I think me and about three other people are the only ones online who a.) ship zutara b.) like Katara c.) are fucking sane.

Also, am I the only person on the planet who can look at a ship I hate and understand why someone else who ship it? And respect that? For some reason, hearing 'how can you even see it?' is so much more demoralizing than hearing, 'I hate/dislike/negative verb of your choice."

Also, am I the only person on the planet who can look at a ship I hate and understand why someone else who ship it?

Amen, sister.

*nods sadly*

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to depress you. :(

Well, some ships I just plain don't see the appeal in at all. I straight-up do not understand it. Zuko/Katara's one of those, although if we have Zuko turning Eskimo, and I tilt my head and squint, I can sort of see it.

The reason for that is mostly that what people find appealing about it, I find completely neutral. So I can't really understand the appeal on any level, because I don't even notice the stuff that they're squeeing about. What they focus on, I mentally skip past.

The key there is to say 'I don't understand it', rather than 'How can you ship that'. In the first phrase, the object of the sentence is yourself. it's a statement of fact. The second one, though, the object is the shippers, and that sounds accusatory.

Oh, don't worry, this is only the final straw of a host of other things - plus, I'm in avatar fandom, I must be a masacist. This is not new.

I guess I can always see the appeal in a ship even if I don't feel it, if that makes sense.

And you have a really good point about object versus subject.

Most ships, I can at least tilt my head and see where they're coming from. But there's some ships that just straight up baffle me (Spandam/Kalifa whut).

It's really just a matter of tone. If you're talking about how you feel about a ship, people are less likely to take it personally than if you talk about how they feel about the ship.

I have no idea how cracky Spandam/Kalifa is, or why the characterization would make it crazy, but after my years in fandom and having a few crack pairings myself, I have such high tolerance for people pairing whatever they feel like pairing.

Oh, they can pair whatever they like. I'm just baffled as to why they would.

(But then I sorta ship Katara/On Ji, so...)

On Jin? Who?

Her.

Oh, she's a cutie!

The funny thing with that is, I'm not sure why I ship them. I just like it for reasons I can't place.

The heart has reasons of which reason knows nothing. (Wishes I had my zutara icon with that text uploaded.)

(But then I sorta ship Katara/On Ji, so...)

Well, they're both cute, anyway.

My favourite total crackship is Jin/Sokka, though.

Pssssht. That's not a crackship at all. Everyone knows that all ladies love Sokka! :D

I was intending to reply to this with something intelligent, but all I want to say now is:

Turning eskimo, I think I'm turning eskimo, I really think so! Dee-dee-dee dee dee dee dee! :D

*waves* May I echo everything you just said? ;_;

Of course. ^_^

Awesome. ♥ It wouldn't really be fair to poor Peter to start a discussion of the merits of Zuko/Katara that isn't braindead-on-arrival in his journal, but suffice to say, the more, the saner, the better. And a sense of humor doesn't hurt.

Hell, yes.

(However, if you'd like to continue this conversation elsewhere, feel free to bring this up in any damn post in my journal ever. There is no bad place for a zutara discussion ...in my lj, I mean. ^_^)

Psst, I really don't mind if you talk about stuff that disinterests me in my LJ.

I'm just happy to have comments at all, I seriously have no problem.

*grins* Careful, that's a dangerous allowance to give me...

More seriously, if you really, really want to avoid the spoilers, you’re going to have to avoid the Intranets

Hm. And really, just some common sense is out of the question? Really, all some of us ask for is a three-word warning. May contain spoilers.

And don’t go flying off on a rant if you do visit your old Avatar haunts and get spoiled, because YOU’VE BEEN WARNED.

But dearie, you see, this is the intarwebs. People like me don't forgive easily.

ps. I remember that wank you linked. oh lord.

Well, internet avoidance is the only way to guarantee that you won't see spoilers. Careless people and spoiler troll abound.

Clearly, I put too much faith in humanity. 8D (I felt like sporking the last spoiler troll that came along avatar fandom)

Yes - trolling happens.

Almost happened to me on a board tonight. Fortunately I realised what was in there before it sunk in, so I didn't catch most of it.

The same guy did the same thing with Deathly Hallows, if I recall correctly.

Man, that is a kickass macro.

The story is pretty unbelievable, too.

Made special for this post.

...That's all kinds of utter dumb.

Also, that was your quote? AWESOME.

Hooray, wankitude! I know there are a few people online to whom I would rather not speak. So.........I don't. And mostly they don't speak to me, and when they do, I try to be polite and leave quickly.

Rocket science, right?

PS - Yaaaaay, my favorite Zuko screenshot. ♥

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